Category: Let's talk
well, i was on line just now when another user sent out a public note and asked "what is rugby?". obviously i was somewhat taken aback by the fact that someone would not have heard of rugby, however, me and a couple of other users proceeded to explain that it was a game played with a ball ... and I explained a couple of the rules to her. Now i would just like to point out that there were at least 4 brittish guys on the site at the time, and did one try and help me explain the rules? not a chance! so, I would just like to point out that my status as a woman who can talk sport with any guy has increased dramatically!
SugarBaby our resident rugby expert is still smarting after his beloved team were humiliated by their bitter enemy France! ...I on the other hand am so busy drooling that the rules are become a blur and as long as we are scoring...well...how about a high speed chat about the upcoming F1 season ...
yeh any time although the outcome of the next f1 season is already a foregone conclusion isn't it, as it was the last season, and the one before that, and ... *yawns*.
LOL! Well the team are cautiously optimistic but I would like to see Alonso make more use of the Renault's superior starting ability,sadly the little champagne he's tasted has definately gone to his head,however when the Spaniard is sorted he's lethal and extremely brave.
Well I'd heard of rugby and I kind of know what it is, but I'm one of those girls who doens't really know a good deal about sports. However, thanks to LL, and certain others, I'm learning a bit about a lot of things, not just sports. But it is kind of silly for people to assume that just cuz you're female you dunno about sports. Especially in this day and age ... that would be considered hopelessly sexist.
thats because sport is still largely male dominated particularly football,rugby and even cricket..there has only been 1 female F1 driver and she lasted about 5 minutes...due to a serious lack of talent and an inability to cope with the pressure...
thats because sport is still largely male dominated particularly football,rugby and even cricket..there has only been 1 female F1 driver and she lasted about 5 minutes...due to a serious lack of talent and an inability to cope with the pressure...
yeh it is true that most sports are male dominated, but why does that necessarily have to mean that women are not interested. I mean the news is full of sports news, how can we listen to it and not take in any of it. I am for instance insensed at the fact that Arson Venger put out an all foreign side last night - not only was it an all foreign team, but even the players on the bench were ... how outragious is that?
I know about a lot of sport categories and I'm interested in them, but I'm not a sports freak and I can understand if some people don't know much about it or don't want to know anything about it, that's fine with me. But I think it's true that more men like watching sports on the TV than women.
Yes yes yes that is outrageous! Bloody frenchman coming over here and taking over an English club and not giving any young English players a chance? Don't get me wrong, I've nothing against foreign managers or foreign players. i'm a Tottenham supporter and our manager is Martin Jol, a Dutchman, and one of our star strikers is from Mali. However, I do object to a team of all foreigners. AS for women not knowing about sport I've never assumed that nor have I ever found it to be the case. However, I do agree that there is a perception that sport is male dominated in britain, but I think that is down, quite frankly, to the problem that in Britain we have precious few sportswomen of whom we can be proud. Paula Radcliffe is marvellous, as is Dame Kelly Holmes, and ellen Macarthur. One might also add Laura Davies, and possibly the england women's cricket team who have been world champions. Apart form that, however, I am bound to say that britain has no notable sportswoman, in fact they all tend to be spectacular failures! I'm not saying that were a bunch of superstars to come along the situation would be cured overnight, but it would help wouldn't it? I used to like women's hockey, that's field hockey rather than that ice-hockey nonsense, but the British women didn't qualify for the olympics or world cup so nobody saw them. Additionally, our female swimming stars won nothing, yet again, and had it not been for Kelly Holmes and Kelly southerton, our female athletes would have joined the catalogue of inappropriately heroic failures. It's no wonder that people aren't interested in the exploits of sportswomen, unfortunate though that undoubtedly is.
Lol when I was little, I used to be all into sports; played football with the guys and tried to get them to tackle, which they wouldn't, because they were scared to tackle a poor lbind girl! Lol! But now I've kind of lost interest in that, probably just because it's not socially acceptable to be playing sports with guys in high school, and also because there's no recess like in elementary school. But i've always loved running and swimming.
Let's take a look at this from the opposite angle. Although I'm a guy, I really have no interest in playing, taking in or talking about any kind of sports. This was true even when I was a kid. Give me some old sci-fi or horror movies or a good book and it'll hold my attention.
Not interested in sport? What's the matter with you for god's sake! lol only joking of course. Labyrynth in fact makes a good point: there are some guys who just aren't interested, and conversely there are women who know an awful lot about sport.
LL.You forgot the extremely successful british paralympic swimming team who swept the boards, in fact the entire paralympic team, were 2nd only to China in the medal table,so never mind your Kelly Holmes support the true athletes!....
Also I have to disagree about E Macarthur she was constantly monitored by a support team who were in touch with rescue services so technically her solo voyage was anything but.
..I will add the exploer Sir Ranolph Feinnes is attempting an ascent of Everest later this year and at 29,000ft rescue is impossible...his courage and daredevil spirit has always impressed me. To truly claim the record E Macarthur should be honest about just how solo her attempt has really been I think you find some major discrepencies....on Everest if anything goes wrong all Feinnes will have is a radio, a fellow climber and luck.
oh goblin I think that's a bit harsh, Ellen McArthur might have had a support team on hand but the actual voyage was done solo, While I don't necessarily think it was a sporting achievement, purely because she was not racing against someone at the time, it does need to be seen as a major achievement, it takes a certain kind of person to go round the world on a yacht on their own.
I'm sorry she had too much support and a safety net close at hand to really give credence to her claim on a solo voyage...while she may have set a record its been done so many times before ..as far as I know no 52 heart bypass survivor has stood atop Everest...if Feinnes succeeds he will have created genuine sporting history...MacArthur made no secret of the fact that she was sailing purely for herself...and that's the difference between them and us, that selfish "look at me!" drive I'm just glad she doesnt have children,they would quickly forget who she was.
and you think that if he gets into trouble that the rescue helicopters won't come and get him? do you really think that there won't be any support there? And besides it's not really sporting history because he's not competing. while it will be an achievement I don't believe it to be sporting history. As for E McCarthur .. she was actually on that boat, on her own, for 71 days, and she did have radio contact with the outside world .. of course she did, but during that time she didn't actually see anyone or set foot on dry land. moreover, she had to hall that sail up and down on her own, and it was three times her bodyweight, trust me I've been sailing and I know that's no mean feat, and as for snatching 10 minuts of sleep here and there ... it still takes a certain kind of person to be able to do that
On Everest as on other 8,000 meter peaks, there is not enough oxygen to support a rescue helicopter and at that altitude conducting a rescue mission is almost impossible,without the rescue services needing rescuing.Yes he'll have his climbing team, a few tents, food, gas and if he's lucky oxygen and so on but as on the other 8,000 peaks, its every climber for themselves and if he succumbs to the effects of altitude the rest will be forced to leave him and save themselves ......read about Art Gilkey on K2 and you will see the folly of mountain rescue at 8,000 meters...
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....And like some high altitude climbers E MacArthur is incredibly driven, selfish and totally focused on being the best,these people see only the summit and/or the finishing line,they will not be told you cant and invariably they wind up dead
And she was racing against someone, even if not in the same sea at the same time, she was racing against a time set by someone else so as far as I'm concerned, that's a sport all right. And what in the name of the lord are we doing talking about Mr Feins? I thought this was about women!
hmmm .. actually how many women have climbed everest? .. maybe something for me to achieve .. grin
We'll get one of the guide prisoners to take you uup there.
can you make sure it's a good looking one with a sense of humour?
Yes how about that Michael Hammond chap who's in prison for impersonating all sorts of people?
I'm not interested in doing sports, too lazy for that. But I'm interested in watching it, for example I watched the olympic games. Couldn't watch the para olympics though, I was in Worcester at that time and far too busy to watch it.
Hehehehe! I like sports, but not that much! I still fail to see how people manage to scale a huge mountain like Everest. I actually met Eric W, the guy who scaled everest. The blind one! He was so totally awesome! Touch the Top Of The World? Any of you read it? It's awesome. Anyway he was quite the character, his book rules, and yeah. But still! And voyaging across the sea, around the world? Wow! These thigns are so amazing, seriously, I mean, stop and think about them. And lol SB! You seem like a great person to scale Everest! Perseverance, bravery, lol ... that'd be awesome if you did heheh! And with that guide ... hehehe ... the prison guide ... heheh.
SugarBaby I will find out and get back to you the women I know of are..
Alison Hargreaves of England climbed it before summiting K2 where she was tragically killed in a horrendous storm..
Wanda Rutckeiwicz of Poland...who later froze to death on Kanchengunga....
I'll wake up my climbing partner he'll know...
90Women have successfully climbed Everest and bloody good on every 1 of them,but nearly all of those women were killed on K2....
.......Erik W.ohh christ! I remember watching his programme on the ascent, and in the middle of his trek up the peak,a rope became entangled around the front points of his crampon,his guide said "you can get out of that"....he replied "I can't get out of it!..All he had to do was reach down and untangle the rope...I have done it so often its almost automatic the guy is just as bloody helpless and manipulative as many other blind so called adventurers,...I cant! has no place on a mountain...and its strange why he hasn't considered K2...perhaps he knows that the savage mountain would destroy him.
hmm ok! K2 it is for me then! if I die will you all remember me? grin
rugby is the best sport ever! (besides feild hockey) its kick ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to admit that I never watched a rugby match, there are no famous teams in Germany. I would never play it though, but I would be interested in watching it. I personally prefer handball though, but that's probably because my mum played it and my sister plays it.
SugarBaby the best of luck the season offically starts in March so you have time yet to prepare..how could we forget such a fearless daredevil...
Come off it Goblin, Eric W is amazing! We all say "I can't" once and awhile. Believe me, I've read his book, heard him talk and met him. He's good. He's really good.
Not as good as Andrew Flintoff though eh? Good old Freddie Flintoff will make sure we win the ashes!
Do we the words don't exist in my vocabulary
and the blind/vi children I teach to climb would agree, they don't rate him at all...furthermore..."I cant!" has absolutely NO place at 8,000 meters it will get you killed and without his high altitude babysitters he would have been...if I ever attempt to climb K2,which is long held dream,I would do it as a legitmate member of the team and not as a dependent burden!......
LL.I don't see the link....
There isn't a link, I was just making an observation. Completely random observation, and here's another: the Hunting act 2004 is a bloody disgrace.
ah ha! Why? is it a disgrace.
do you advocate charging about the countryside on a 17hh hunter chasing an exhausted fox happily going about its business in the name of sport and tradition...I can think of an altogether more productive use for these "sportsmen", as quarry for bloody thirsty Scots,in powerful 4x4 vehicles,see how these over fed, over paid numpties, feel after being persued for several miles in pouring sleety rain.
He wasn't a buden! He pulled his own weight and worked hard to get where he was. Unless you heard him speak you might think differently. Just from one thing you saw no TV you think he's not good. He is I tell you!
Oh feeling sorry for the damn and blasted foxes are you? Well how would you feel if I were to tell you that as a result of the Hunting Act, more of them are going to be killed? It's true: hunts very rarely kill foxes or hares and when they do, they kill the old or sick foxes whose existence is blighted anyway and who are the worst sort of vermin. by contrast, now foxes instead of being driven away from their quarry by hunts, will have to be shot by farmers instead. The shotgun will be a guaranteed instrument of death.
Poor foxes...Heh.
And what about the poor hounds who have been rendered unemployed and who will have to be killed?
Bollocks have you ever heard of drag hunting following a scent pre-set by a runner the day before,its just a case of retraining the hounds to follow this, instead of hunting for foxes,your argument is completely invalid and weak to say the least...........
Caitlin when your man is standing on the summit of my beloved K2 {of course he then has to get down,and if he starts whinging and says I cant!, they should bloody well leave him to it} then I'll be impressed, because K2 IS the last word in climbing, if your serious about achieveing anything in high altitude climbing,that mountain should be your only goal, and so far your man has been very quiet where that 1 's concerned I wonder why..is he scared of it possibly however...I'd climb the damned thing tomorrow.......I have also read his book and became infuriated by his constant whinging about his blindness,christ! he mentioned the damned topic in every feckin chapter what a moaning old woman!..if you want to hear about courage, achievement and inspiration, you come over and talk to my brother Erik isnt fit to be in the same room as him.
Okay well I guess we must agree to disagree, though I do think whining about blindness is totally uncalled for. But he wasn't really whining, just explaining it. You've gotta realize that, when writing a book, your'e appealign to all audiences. In this case some might have been sighted, and might not have known about blindness, so of course he had to explain things. Also he lost his sight gradually, and if my memory is correct, you were born blind Goblin. Having known some peopel who have lost their sight at a young age, I know what an ordeal that can be. I'm not saying I condone whining about blindness, not at all. I'm just saying, "Don't judge a man until you walk wo moons in his moccasins." And i'd love to meety our brother heh. And LL, the hounds won't have to be killed, i could always take one home and raise it heh.
Caitlin these hounds are NOT pets they ARE trained killers, who only respond to a strong pack leader, any weakness on your part and you would be in danger...plus the bloody thing would kill every small furry animal within a distance of 4 miles..
Caitlin these hounds are NOT pets they ARE trained killers, who only respond to a strong pack leader, any weakness on your part and you would be in danger...plus the bloody thing would kill every small furry animal within a distance of 4 miles..
Lol! I seem to remember having thsi discussion about the hounds before ... ah well...
yep and we came the conclusion that they are not what they appear to be ...of course if you are at all keen on wild rabbit or hare, then their the boys for you...
Rabbits are nice ... but wild rabits, I just don't know.
Oh for god's sake stop believing that this is about saving foxes, it ain't! Release the hounds! Charge!
But the foxes, the poor dear little foxes ... ahahah just joking. But why can't foxes hunt, they're so smart and clever like.
They do hunt, that's the problem. They kill chickens and other livestock. and what happens? All the people from London, Birmingham, Manchester, get on their anti-hunting high horses. The trouble is that they're all big cities, and these people have no notion of what it's like to live in the countryside where foxhunting is part of maintaining the ecological stability on which Britain's agricultural sector depends, not so much by the killing of foxes, but by chasing them away. Foxes are vermin; they may not look as nasty as rats, they may not live in sewers, but they are vermin.
fox cubs are cute vermin though. hehehe
the fox is a predator acting purely on instinct to survive,
...where as huntsmen are sick,inconsiderate eejits, who enjoy chasing an exhausted creature to near collapse, then they actively encourage the hounds to rip the poor animal to shreds while its still alive!..they are the bloody vermin!.
Nonsense, emotionally charged but factually inaccurate nonsense, from start to finish. Foxes may be acting as predators, but so do rats and they are a nuisance, the both of them. Now, man is also a predator Goblin so that argument doesn't get you very far. AS to the other argument viz. the huntsmen allowing the dogs to rip the animal to shredds, this takes a matter of a couple of seconds, when indeed it does happen which is not terribly often relatively speaking. That is far less cruel than a death by snaring, which can take hours, or shooting, which can also take hours or even days, or even death by infestation of mange which can take many days and yet be terribly painful. Bear in mind, I repaat, that the foxes who are killed by the hunts are those that are too old and sick to fend for themselves anymore and whose only prey is livestock. We depend on livestock, we don't depend on foxes, so unless you're suggesting we all start eating fox, the fox can fox off as far as I'm concerned if it means saving a few chickens and lambs.
man has created a perfect enviroment for rats to thrive our wasteful litter lout habits, have allowed these resorceful rodents to proliferate, then we vilify them to cover up our own stupidity! the human race should consider giving a very sincere apology to our animal friends....
...I cannot accept tearing an exhausted, traumatized, animal to shreds,its barbaric and needless slaughter,yes snaring is awful that is absolute cruelty and I agree that mange results in a terrible death,but you will NEVER get me to agree to hunting in any form.. if you remove a predator fvrom the enviroment the prey species run out of control and suffer as a result of over breeding ect,its messing around with nature and that is rarely beneficial to man or beast.
But nobody is advocating removing a predator from the environment as you put it. The fact remains taht there is currently an epidemic of xoxes. what do you suggest that we do about them?